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	<title>Comments on: Concept Virtual Corkboard With Handwriting Recognition for Large Interactive Walls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Posts of 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Concept Virtual Corkboard With Handwriting Recognition for Large Interactive Walls This and the Twitter AR post is the kind of stuff I want to do more writing of. They are not technical but illustrate concepts that I like to speak and blog about. However they consume a lot of time since I have to build the demo, create a video then write about it. I&#8217;ve had some inquiries about the code as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Concept Virtual Corkboard With Handwriting Recognition for Large Interactive Walls This and the Twitter AR post is the kind of stuff I want to do more writing of. They are not technical but illustrate concepts that I like to speak and blog about. However they consume a lot of time since I have to build the demo, create a video then write about it. I&#8217;ve had some inquiries about the code as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan, thanks for your vote of confidence. Love your work as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan, thanks for your vote of confidence. Love your work as well.</p>
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		<title>By: danorlando</title>
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		<dc:creator>danorlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pek, can I be your new #1 fan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pek, can I be your new #1 fan?</p>
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		<title>By: JuanBon</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuanBon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. I could see Twitter and a search for people be involved in this....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. I could see Twitter and a search for people be involved in this&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: BrandonHarvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrandonHarvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my mind, there are 2 issues with this:

One, will people be willing to learn to write in a new way -- an &quot;in place&quot; style -- in order to put text on a board.  With the Palm Pilot, people seemed willing to do so, perhaps surprisingly.  But then again, that was a small personal device, a fetish object to be mastered.  You could practice in private -- mistakes weren&#039;t visible to others.  With a wall things are quite different, as it&#039;s a public affordance.  Business users really hate to look silly at work. 

Two, are we to the point yet where the tech supports a writing experience that isn&#039;t crappy.  I&#039;ve built the Wii-based IR pen protoype that Johnny suggested -- nowhere near enough resolution.  I&#039;ve built other systems as well; I&#039;ve used Smart boards, and even those things you can suction-cup onto a whiteboard.  All these are basically science fair projects compared to a real piece of chalk or a dry-erase pen.  People make *very* fine-grained motor movements when writing naturally and un-selfconsciously.  They also lift up and put down the instrument onto the surface really quickly and precisely, so timing is crucial.  You can&#039;t ask them to squeeze a button every time you want them to make a mark.  Some very small movements (like at the top of a t -- or was it an f?) turn into meaningful, visible changes in the writing output.  Our tech needs to really capture these movements.

An in-place writing system like you&#039;re suggesting could really contribute something valuable if it could get people to write BIGGER -- make bigger movements, easier for the system can digest -- while preventing the hassle where users have to physically move along the board because their BIG writing is getting so expansive.  So I like the compression aspect.

Brandon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my mind, there are 2 issues with this:</p>
<p>One, will people be willing to learn to write in a new way &#8212; an &#8220;in place&#8221; style &#8212; in order to put text on a board.  With the Palm Pilot, people seemed willing to do so, perhaps surprisingly.  But then again, that was a small personal device, a fetish object to be mastered.  You could practice in private &#8212; mistakes weren&#8217;t visible to others.  With a wall things are quite different, as it&#8217;s a public affordance.  Business users really hate to look silly at work. </p>
<p>Two, are we to the point yet where the tech supports a writing experience that isn&#8217;t crappy.  I&#8217;ve built the Wii-based IR pen protoype that Johnny suggested &#8212; nowhere near enough resolution.  I&#8217;ve built other systems as well; I&#8217;ve used Smart boards, and even those things you can suction-cup onto a whiteboard.  All these are basically science fair projects compared to a real piece of chalk or a dry-erase pen.  People make *very* fine-grained motor movements when writing naturally and un-selfconsciously.  They also lift up and put down the instrument onto the surface really quickly and precisely, so timing is crucial.  You can&#8217;t ask them to squeeze a button every time you want them to make a mark.  Some very small movements (like at the top of a t &#8212; or was it an f?) turn into meaningful, visible changes in the writing output.  Our tech needs to really capture these movements.</p>
<p>An in-place writing system like you&#8217;re suggesting could really contribute something valuable if it could get people to write BIGGER &#8212; make bigger movements, easier for the system can digest &#8212; while preventing the hassle where users have to physically move along the board because their BIG writing is getting so expansive.  So I like the compression aspect.</p>
<p>Brandon</p>
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		<title>By: Pek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, the hand writing library was definitely based on Graffiti and I had no trouble picking it up as well.  Glad you enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, the hand writing library was definitely based on Graffiti and I had no trouble picking it up as well.  Glad you enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Maddaloni - The Hot Iron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Maddaloni - The Hot Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are definitely onto something here!

The handwriting recognition reminded me of Graffiti from my old Palm days (daze?).  I was able to use it without even watching the video.

This would be great to sit down sometime with a bunch of people and brainstorm using it!  For one, I can see this as a great tool for modeling Web site hierarchy, blog categories, etc.!

mp/m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are definitely onto something here!</p>
<p>The handwriting recognition reminded me of Graffiti from my old Palm days (daze?).  I was able to use it without even watching the video.</p>
<p>This would be great to sit down sometime with a bunch of people and brainstorm using it!  For one, I can see this as a great tool for modeling Web site hierarchy, blog categories, etc.!</p>
<p>mp/m</p>
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